But in your earlier video on capture cards, you claimed that Elgato pci express cards also are almost zero latency which has been proved false here. Why did you made a false claim in that video?

Contact mark rober to build you a latency testing device

You need battlenonsense to explain the bottle neck.

Looks like Linus has pink lipstick.. O.o

> once and for all. You mean, for this specific setup. There's like a million different combinations out there in the wild.

Input layg

Thank you for this video, this is very useful information!

Now test Audio Latency, since for games that matter, on console or PC - that is a far bigger problem than video latency. 40ms of video latency is barely noticeable. 40ms of audio latency is a deal breaker. Try playing Rocksmith on anything with 40ms or more of audio latency for eg.

Anyone else have audio distortions when Linus touched his mic or something?

5:15 he miss the checkpoints on Forza Horizon 4 Race

#gamerphile

You should use the LDAT to measure latency of gaming streaming services in some matrix like this: Shadow, Stadia, GeForce Now on Mac, Linux, and Windows clients. There's a super underreported issue here. A lot of people choose streaming because they want to play on weird hardware (like Mac users). But many of the streaming clients don't play nicely with the underlying systems they're running on (e.g., macOS). It'd be really interesting to see if the typical latency varies depending on the OS + client, because I'd imagine a pretty wide amount of variance between something like macOS Quartz + average Linux compositor + Windows.

So if you’re using stadia through all of those devices, does the positive latency from the devices add with the negative latency to make 0 latency? Or is it multiplicative where you’re multiplying a negative number by a positive one to further increase the negative latency?

THEY ARE TESTING ELGATTO LATANCY

cant get arc to work so i have to thew av reciver

Sony should Take pride in that Latency(Or Lack thereof) and advertise it as a selling feature. Also they should sponsor you.

So many problems getting my Elgoto HD60s just going between the TV and PS4. I gave up on using it. It would work after anywhere from 15 minutes to an hour+ of messing with it.

LTT what happened to not having clickbait titles?

Is there a benefit in terms of delay by cloning the game on your graphic card's outputs and feeding one into the monitor, the other one into the elgato?

Why is Linus wearing a wool hat in latest videos? Because virus restrictions preventing a proper haircut? xD

Only one good thing on this channel for time being is that pillow

>copy protection ruins performance AGAIN Pirates always win.

Nice hat😊

I'd say a better approach for recording would be to connect the TV/monitor and the recording device to separate outputs on the video card. Then configure Windows to duplicate the display (instead of Extend), and send audio to the recording device. From there you could extract audio from the recording device's output, so the only latency is on the audio. I'd be surprised if people could identify 20ms of audio lag.

Okay but the real question is who is WHO DAT?

What about delay from a HDMIeARC connection ? Nobod talks about that topic. Its just stupid having high quality audio dealy when you can trade it for "non noticeable" 8ms of lag when connecting your consol or whatever directly to a soundbar.

i work in the event industry and hdcp can be a real hastle there too.

Wow.. 2:45 THATS a fkn add xD

6:35 okay, but what's going on here? I am incredibly confused.

7:46 "linus_6brain9.exe" Me: "Nice!"

Gnome

Omg, I was searching for this information forever, want to purchase a "gaming" tv and they are expensive!

Not a bad price for a 4k TV I Think..

Often an AVR manufacturer won't advertise latency figures because that's not the target market.

Crypto mining update pls

I really like that CPU pillow. Didn't know it was a thing.

I have around 60 ms on league of legends, witch is OK for playing, I got used to it 60+40 from this makes 100 ms drastic changes in gameplay with 100 ms, will decrease player's performance

Please do a follow-up with more tests with different recievers or sound bars

love the beard and the new smile thank you for your content and your team as well

6:37 the moths have risen

This video was a lot of fun to listen to. Thanks Linus.

Hey who dat??

why don't you all link the verbally recommended videos in the notes section? I'd be curious to check out the video, but since you have...difficult to search titles, it isn't as easy as it COULD be.

One should try the HDFury 4K Diva

why are TVs, even gaming TVs, typically 10x or greater the latency of gaming monitors?

The screens come from a few manufacturers so they are mostly the same. The difference is the controller board. That's where the brand name and model comes in. They decide what features to enable to what extent and implement that on the board that fits their price point for each model they want to sell. Higher quality board + amount of features on board = higher price tv or monitor. All tvs are targeted at the lowest common denominator, so they are cheaper and have lower quality boards.

4:40 Linus - "FoUrTyy Milliseconds"

Me playing MFS 2020: „Latency...?“ P.S. avg. 13 FPS, Maxed out settings, Dual 1080p monitor, RTX 3070

IDK, I think the LTT CPU Pillow should be 199.99 .. I mean.. who's gonna buy it anyways ? :D #YourPillow

I'm still looking for a way to connect my PC to my TV without plugging in a cable at all. I don't want a cable across the room!

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Maby some delay is artificial for syncing with audio.

the final delay is the sum of all devices delay. hdcp doesn't add significant delay, as the key exchange is done on startup. it is a source of things not working properly though.

I'll suck regardless of ms.

I can't stop looking at that cable hanging in front of the TV...

if only the TV had a HDMI out, like eARC for capture after display

first world problems mans i can't take it soz

AV Receiver most probably just makes a physical connection with use of relays (you always hear a loud "click" when you change the source), hence the unnoticeable delay.

I wondered how he stayed alive so long with all the bots around on CSGO in the background, and also how the video ends with a bang! XD

Down voted cause he doesn't drop anything, except for like 1 or so frames.

You need to do more latency test like this since they're so rare to find

I'm surprised there was no 'HDMI Splitter' option rather than using passthrough although if it was HDCP I guess they'd be in hot water for showing how to strip it.

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Careful saying "HDCP" on YT. That sounds demonitizable.

Thank the lord someone did this finally

I wish you had added an HDMI balun into the mix. As someone who works with these a ton, ive always wondered how much latency would be added.

Moral of the story: an AVR looks really useful for streaming

Whats with the flying things at 3.36

It would’ve been interesting to test out simple HDMI switches and splitters. Maybe if there’s a low (no?) latency splitter, the second output can go to any other necessary equipment, like a capture card or whatever

I have i5 2500 and an intel 3000 pls help I can’t play fortnite

"Oh, nice he's dead" great Linus it's 2021 and you finally figured out how Counter-Strike works :)

Writer: DHCP Writer: Who Dat?

Your HDMI cables were too long. Noobs

What?! The Shroud video is from 2019?!

Why are you testing latency on a 10 ms tv?

what is up with that shaky camera and mic noises?

Who Dat?

WHat is that titel? So close to click bait. Good video, stupid title.

What is the y axis? Clicks? Time?

Linus I'd click more videos if I could tell what was going on in the title. I swear I watch like 1 lmg video a week now bc I can never tell what is happening the titles are so vague

Uhh...DOGECOIN?!

They probably don't add one extra frame, but rather a few milliseconds of latency. That would explain why more devices don't add more frames of delay. The original frame is probably just getting within the last refresh window. Leaving 8-16ms for everything to reach the next refresh cycle.

I actually tested that with a camera that can capture 1/500th of a second..

I don't see the point of this

I missed the reason for the random bees...was watching while working. Anyone help me out with why there were two flying bugs around 6:30?

Weird that some sound devices introduce that much video delay when they're only tapping into the audio part. Maybe there is indeed something to do with HDMI copy protection where the entire signal has to be validated even if there is no need for it. Also I'm guessing the Sony receiver isn't doing anything peculiar decoding wise but just passing through the entire signal.

This is why we can't play Guitar Hero in our friend's lounge room.

ADVERT WARNING

time to throw out my old pioneer then...

A/V receivers often don't showcase latency numbers because analog components and DSPs don't really have latency lol.

thought he was testing buttplugs or something

6:24 duh that's cause it's sony. feel their controllers and consoles compared to the same generation of microsoft console. the responsiveness difference is incredible. sony might not always be the most polished, or the most secure, but god damn do they know what really makes a game feel good. consistent frame times and as little input lag as possible.

I appreciate Vizio for being an American company making TV's in such a heavily saturated market. So much so I've ignored my Vizio 32" from like 2014 making ocean noises for the first 20 seconds when you turn it on.

wait. how he get a vizio tv in canada? they exited the market there

Yay for the Sony SN1080

day one of asking linus to do the dark mode intro more

Videos are sounding more like ads then actual tests :/

"Let's buy a Visio!" Said no one ever 🤣

Yeah Microsoft Visio sucks. But Vizio on the other hand is decent.

Depends, if their oled released in Canada I would have

If it's not zero latency with your gaming rig's setup, in your other video about xbox series x it's direct connection for processing speed... why not just try this similar setup in this video with the xbox series x instead and see if your results will be different? Linus in the other video I watched of yours it did say it had the ability to connect directly in order to process things faster for CPU or GPU part which might be a factor in your experiment for zero latency. Just test it out and see how it goes.

Well try that again with a denon avr and you will get 100ms+ ... its horrible.

I bet a ton of people would LOVE to know what kind of delay you would get if you use displayport from graphics card to monitor and CLONED signal using HDMI from graphics card to the capture card. Does windows create any extra delay? is it better or worse than using the HDMI passthrough with the 4K60 PRO? can anybody test that please?